It is high past time you stopped living among black Americans and causing confusion with your bullshit ass stories and history. Can you tell me how much percentage of each genes are in Somalis. It’s explaining how they figured out the rest of the world is descended from an East african population. E3b1 is in East Africa from a Southward migration. ALBANIANS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME Y CHROMOSOME AS SOMALIS. if we have Asian admixture it would probably be higher. Not sure what their Mtdna shows though.. Mathilda37 You say Somalis have Eurasian , Egyptian , Arab , Sub-Saharan genes. The last census i posted was done by the somali gov,there is no way MJ are as big as you say waqooyi alone in colonial and as late as 2014 has more people than … A ‘perceived superiority’ is not the tone I got from you. Was britney spears the only white pop star that actually could dance? You should take a second look at the ISOGG Chart. It’s more true of Ethiopians than Somalis, but the West Africans and South Africans were pretty isolated from East Africa for a very long time. One book is “Daily life of the Nubians.” Actually No, I’ve had a lot of trouble getting detail on Somali mt DNA. So in that sense Iv’e always been referred to as somali as though we have our own ethnicity not white,black,indian,mixed just Somali, as viewed by the majority of the people in Britain. (if any), “strong message to alienate africans, and african cohesion”. Somalid Reality Tea-V. Are there some legal beagles in here b/c I believe that as soon as he made the statement, it wasn’t private. There is only one M35 Marker. after 20,000 you would still be white, with blue eyes. 2. You're obviously mentally challenged and fail to stay on topic. You'd rather make up fantasies then actually learn your own family histories and claim Africans who don't want shit to do with you. I have read too many times people label E3a as West African, Bantu etc. It edits out the bit in one of his quotes where the paper goes onto to suggest that even the L3a is present in Africa from a back migration. We sure are unique in our own way, we are proud of our EuroAsian and Afro heritage. While M78 might be from the horn, E-M215, the parent clade of E-M78, originated in East Africa during the paleolithic and subsequently, E-M215 spread to Northeast Africa. The direction is into Somalia, not from it. M1a also show a distribution from the same NE African point that M1 and M78 radiate from. The only black African groups any ancient Egyptians population (Badarians)show any similarity to are the Somalis, Ethiopians and other groups of mixed ancestry- which is unsurprising as the Badaraians seem to be a mix of Eurasian and East African just like them but slightly higher in Eurasian. And the Somali DNA is about 40% near Eastern, not European , My apologies to mathilda37 since it is her blog and gave us some interesting research learn from my ancestors but I find it is quite troubling to see Western cultures imposing their research on orients(non westerners) and the fact that there is an actual field of study anthropology studying other nations almost like animals is incredibly insulting! I don’t have to cover up my DNA, European V13 is much closer to Somali V12, than to [b]any subclade of E1b1b[/b]. Yes I do read Chrish Ehret- and I wince when I do it. Why is it that scientists are claiming that we have such a significant amount of Caucasian material? Yonas/Ekli whatever your current name is…. Mathilda37 You say Somalis have Eurasian , Egyptian , Arab , Sub-Saharan genes. Suddenly, there is no way East Africans should look, but there is one way West Africans should look? what is founder effect youve mentioned it a couple of times and i wud like to know how it applies to somalis. It makes perfect sense to me that Cushtic groups carrying the M78 V32 marker come from Egyptians that have the M78 V12 – Because V12 is found in its highest frequency in Southern Egypt. do we have india and portoggues ancestory ? Wrong again. Maybe my reasons dont really make sense to you. If you have a difference source that says other wise thanks in advanced. South Asians can range from jet black to ivory in colour. The fact that Somalis have the highest levels of E3b1 of any population in the world should make it clear that they are the population in which that haplotype group originated. I’ve read the DNA studies. no. Somalis and upper Egyptians have very similar DNA profiles but no-one debates that upper Egyptians are have a lot of eurasian ancestry in them. There are a few studies on the Ethiopian DNA and sundries page. Good luck being a hebrew moorish malian. Worse! As do I, but 15% (I doubt the avg. Hebrew and Arabic are the only Semitic languages spoken outside of Africa –there are more Semitic languages spoken in Ethiopia than any other part of the world suggesting that the Semitic languages originated in Africa. It is Y DNA. I dont know what to say to that. M58 – found in Burkina Faso hybridisation assay, Our Somali sample presents features that clearly locate it close to the African samples, but European features are also evident…. “dark skin Afrocentric people were spread all over the planet”. The LAST populations to have an Ethiopian progenitor were the Berber (M35>M81)only 5600 Years ago and their even YOUNGER Sibling (2700 bp) the Southern African and South East African Groups : Datog, Kung, Kwe, Sandawe, etc. I am not denying that ancient Egypt had different racial admixtures because it did over time BUT essentially the Southern Egyptian that we see today and that TV never likes to show represent how the majority of ancient Egyptians prior to racial mixing used to look and they always have been historically what many in America would view as ‘black’ –even today Egyptians are referred to colloquially in Arabic as the dark ones. I have already gave my piece and said Southern Egyptians. Along the way M2 had many different mutations, some are: There’s been some very ancient population movement from Egypt into into Somalia that arrived so long ago that the only reason we know is that genetics shows it. Mystery of Cindy James, stalked for 7 years or just crazy? And do the rest of BLACK Africa it, or are we continuing isolation from rsten of Africa? (Agree), mathilda37 – “Saying that E3b moved into North East Africa is wrong- it remained there during the backmigration ”, Back Migrated from where? They dont speak of the specific mutation, they just say E3a……I think E3b in all its cases can be looked at the same way: Ethiopic, East African, or Afro-Asiatic – Because these are the people who ancient ancestry it would show. If not, I'm sure she'll find whatever makes... therookie, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:07 PM E-M293 When Puntites and Africans are depicted on one and the same monument, care is taken to bring out the physical differences between them, as in the tomb of Amenmose at Thebes. I am a somali male from djbouti and all my life i had stupid Caribeans/Jamaicans tell me im not black because i have silky curly hair and i dont have a wide nose..I usually get mistaken as ethiopian by outher somalis or ill usually get mistaken for Caribean by non east africans my sisters and brothers usually get mistaken as caribean as well my mom is very light skin and my dad is a caramel colour. My paternal family originate from Guinea in West Africa. If the Somali population is composed of 15% in Europe and 5% sub-African, what is the last 80%? Do you think Matilda can teach you the essence of how it is to be somali? yes all east africa was considered abysinia, somalis being nomads have spread looking for better land for there livestock, they are a warrior people and fought many battles to claim the eastern part of ethiopia ogaden, the northeastern part of kenya and djibouiti. For a simple approach to measure the Caucasoid influence in East Africa, the triangle method described by Cavalli-Sforza et al was used to compute the proportion of admixture from the genetic distance matrix. Which is kind of playing with semantics. Eurasian mt DNA (U and M1) and E3b African father, m78 mixed ancestry son. “The v13 in Albanians doesn’t have any connection to Somalia, It’s from the near East”, I did enough research on my own personal DNA journey, I paid for it so I know exactly my lineage . Black cannot simply be Sub-Saharan. Members of tribes in somalia look similar, my father’s tribe is dark while my mothers in very light almost yemeni looking, still i’d like a DNA test for myself. V13 itself is just a downstream M78 mutation, Almost all E1b1b Somalis are M78 But mathilda , If you look at some of the african american kids who are heavly mixed they still tend to have their african traits. To most African Americans i have spoke to and especially most Africans the notion of “Black” being synonymous with “Sub Saharan” is patently false. Thanks to all. Weird, huh? V13’s ancestors never came from Somalia, they share a common ancestor from upper Egypt that moved South into Somali and also NE into Europe (m78). Therein lies my idea with Berbers i am not sure how old the Marker is but its dated about 5500-6000 years ago. It better to accept whatever you are and be happy with it. That is a very very limited view of African Diversity and in general is just not based on an real FACT. So what its just DNA! The people of upper Egypt and Lower Egypt both show minimal input from historical migrations. very interesting points you guys brought up it helped answer a lot of questions that were bothering me for quite some time..by the way im somali i thought somali’s originated from somewhere in Ethiopia. I believe, the explorers, the traders from other countries also have contributed a lot to the gen-pull apart from the inter marriage between different clan and race in the country. Maybe you are though which is why you insist on erasing the real history of black Americans to fit into your afro-centric West African propaganda against black America. E-M81 I believe if we have any Eurasian admixture it is very low. 2. There are plenty of explicit text references to Punt being in Asia, “The fear which you inspire reaches those from the end of the world (west) breaks the heart of the Nubians (South) devastates the lands of the Fenkhu (North) and penetrates Punt of the sand dwellers (East).”. If you have, did you notice many of the different tones that you saw in Egypt? This is an accurate description of much of the people in the East African region and the style of dress and the braided hair etc. R1b is a Eurasian Haplotype regardless of how the person looks or how long they have been in Africa. Can you please explain this to me in so i can understand thanks. There are multiple images of them- some have fair hair and light skin. STAN Fair, Username7, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:07 PM Just giving it a monster a good face. You obviously know nothing about genetics, and your sole purpose seems to be to get pissy with anyone who observes Eurasian ancestry in East Africans. don’t worry mathilda ,it’s the new lies from arabocentric and afrocentric ! ! Do Indians have “Euro-type” hair? For something to be “precise,” it has to be an exact expression of details. There’s no way Somalia is possible – it’s just too far away. I actually read that somali gene pool is the most pure and unmixed gene pool in the world. European very pale skin is a recent response to Neolithic grain based diets, something thats much more recent to the rest of the world, which is why hunter gatherer groups have darker skin.. Eskimos eat a lot of vitamin D, they do not require a lighter skin tone. Many of the people that choose to live IN the Sahara are primarily “Black” and are no different than those living below the Sahara. Unfortunately my special area is North Africa, so I can’t be certain of migrations to account for it’s presence in Europe. Too many words for goat- not an African animal, same for horse and sheep. Punt Land that how Egyptians called Somalia region, wich means country of gods and who were Egyptian gods? I am the typo queen. Sorry I am never to sure about the gene test from Europeans unless it backed up and agreed by black scholars. Lets just say after having a good root through his dates and protowords, I can tell his estimated dates are less reliable than a politicans promises. 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